The “Nitty Gritty” on Tonight’s Debate

By socialiste

* this post has been cross posted at A la Gauche

Ever wonder the origin of the phrase “nitty gritty”?

How ’bout “flippin’ a bird”?

Or “ok”?

And who hasn’t wondered about “balls to the wall”?

I don’t know how, but I somehow came across a page explaining all these phrases and more. If you have nothing better to do, check it out: www.yaelf.com/questions.shtml. I didn’t watch the debate tonight, but I have been reading about it here and there. One interesting little tidbit I came across concerned the inequity in time given to the eight candidates.

Look who the top three are: Clinton, Edwards, and Obama. This can serve as evidence piece # 353,298,424 that the MSM is as corrupt as can be. This is, for a great number of Americans, one of their only chances to see the eight candidates and form an opinion as to how to vote.  It’s almost become impossible for me to even remember being shocked at occurences like this one. From an AP story on the debate:

Clinton declined to say whether she would use military force in Darfur, saying she didn’t want to “talk about these hypotheticals.”

That just about makes me sick. She will vote to send American teenagers to Iraq to die, but she can’t say what, if anything, she would do to end the genocide in Darfur. Our inaction in regards to the slaughter going on in Darfur, is enough on its own to declare our nation morally bankrupt, without mentioning the U.S. governments inaction here at home. I think this might be the first election in which I don’t vote.

8 Responses to “The “Nitty Gritty” on Tonight’s Debate”

  1. Benjamin Solah Says:

    I often say when those opposed to the war, aren’t for immediate withdrawal, “Would you give a man who broke into your house, destroyed the place, raped and killed your family, just for something valuable, a timetable for withdrawal?” or would you tell him to get the fuck out now?

    In regards to Darfur, I ask, “Would you trust this man to fix another house?”

  2. John Angliss Says:

    Darfur would be a totally different operation though. Sending in peacekeepers of some sort seems to be the only way. It depends, of course, how much you believe you should respect capitalist states’ sovereignty. The other difference is that we’re not trying to remove the Sudanese leaders; and we’re not trying to change domestic policy in any way other than protecting those on the wrong end of a massacre.

  3. Benjamin Solah Says:

    These kinds of questions arouse so many more. Namely, the role of the UN, are humanitarian missions really humanitarian.

    I really do not trust any imperialist state or the UN (a caucus of world imperialism) to fix international problems or act as the world police.

    If you look back to history, you can see that these ‘humanitarian missions’ have often neglected what they said they’d do, rape the country of vital resources and investment and prop up puppet governments worse than the one before it.

  4. socialiste Says:

    In regards to Darfur, I ask, “Would you trust this man to fix another house?”

    good point, ben. i just think it’s telling that she wouldn’t even say what she would do. of course, if we went in, we’d only make things worse in some regards. but it would be nice if someone in the world community would do something about darfur. it seems it isn’t just the U.S. who talks about it and does nothing.

    i wonder if chavez is doing anything in regards to darfur.

  5. Benjamin Solah Says:

    Yeah, they don’t want to talk about action in Darfur and really, it seems there isn’t much that benefits them, so it’s not in their interest.

    So, I think they find it useful to talk about Darfur, make people angry that it’s going on, diverting attention from the campaign against the war in Iraq to a campaign that predominately is for a war in Sudan.

  6. Ty Harris Says:

    I am glad you see that we- as the great arsenal of Democracy and freedom in the world- have a duty to use our military might to help the poor, opressed peoples of the world acheive a better life. What I fail to see is why you think it’s OK to use the military to make the world a better place in darfur, but not in Iraq. I think the primary difference is that it would be easy to use our power in the role you suggest with few casualties, and little actual sacrifice- whereas, in Iraq,- where we are fighting Al Queada and Jihadists from all over the world every single day AND trying to give millions of people freedom and Democracy- we have to make a real national commitment to the cause of freedom in both blood and treasure. Let’s face it, the current generation of Americans just doesnt have the stomach or the patience for a fight of that type. So let’s all abdicate our major responsibilities in the world where our enemies are waiting to fight us, and focus instead on walkover humanitarian missions in backwater african countries. Obviously, the world would be a better place if we invaded darfur tomorrow. I agree totally with that. But It would ALSO be a better place if we suceed in creating a peaceful, democratic state in Iraq- and do the same throughout the middle-east. Millions and millions of lives would be improved. So… I’ll tell you what- I’ll support your invasion in support of helping the poor opressed peoples of the world, if you’ll support mine. Deal? I recently posted an essay on my own blog entitled ” The Most Worthless Generation”. In it, I detail some of the reasons why the current generation seems to want to abdicate it’s responsibility to fight evil ( islamic facism ) in it’s own time, unlike prior generations who fought the nazis and the communists, and stepped-up to their own responsibilities. I also argue in the essay FOR militarism in support of the poor, opressed peoples of the world ( like you support in darfur ), and put the Iraq war in a multi-generational perspective. Anti- war types are invited to come and comment and/ or refute my insurmountable logic and my un-assailable arguments. God bless those poor people in darfur, and may he give our country the courage to do the right thing in this world. What was that line from the second Spiderman movie- “With great power comes great responsibility…”

    http://tyharris.wordpress.com

  7. DaveM Says:

    the problem ty, is that the the real danger to this world is people like you.
    you’re a fascist, get it?
    helping people, the US?
    are you serious?
    the cause of freedom? ha! precious.
    you’re adorable like that tucker carlson.
    time for bed little MSM schoolboy.

  8. Jynweythek Ylow Says:

    Please, bring us more posts. Our country is entering a very crucial time for alternative points of view, and the mainstream media will bring very little of that to us. It’s blogs like these, and other sources of information and editorial opinion that will help to keep other points of view out there. And also, Ty, when concluding your argument (whatever side of the coin it may be), never, EVER, quote spider man II

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